BRAVEHEART (GBFM is William Wallace): You’re so concerned with squabbling (gaming) for the scraps (pre-buttocked, desouledz Dalrockianz womenz) from Longshank’s (Chuchian/Frankfartian) table that you’ve missed your God given right to something better (the schools, universities, and a loyal, virginal wife).

I am wondering why you type these things and it is hard for me to figure out sometimes.

On one hand you say we need to reclaim the churches, society, schools, university and deride Dalrock (perhaps rightly so) for accepting game.

But whenever Heartiste makes a post about alphas or game you claim in an exaggerated way that you have all those attributes.

Which leads me to believe either

1) You are mocking this concept of alpha in a funny way.
2) You are not a Christian and therefore do not hold yourself to the same standard. However, you will hold a Christian person to their own standard and call them out on it.

You are probably go for something subtler that I am not getting. In any case for the talk about reclaiming society..It make me think about the Iliad again.

Why did all of Greece under Agamemnon invade Troy for one girl? Why did the families of these men support them in doing so, even the women? Was this woman that beautiful? Yes, it is that in part. There is the saying of the woman who launched a thousand ships. But in going after this woman and the cowardly Paris who stole her, the men were going to reclaim society. It was not that the men were horny and all marveled the beauty of this woman. It was that these men upheld their values so much, that they wouldn’t even let this woman, who had beauty blessed by a “goddess” get away with doing something so heinous as breaking a wedding vow and running away with another man to another country.

And we see this again when Achilles refuses to fight. The Achaens had vows that a certain maiden, as a spoil of war would go to Achilles. But King Agamemnon broke this, and thus Achilles refused to bend to his will and retreated to his own tent. This is showing a people who held on to honor, respect, justice, even at the cost of defying the most beautiful woman in the world (and the mischievous deities that supported her) as well as kings. In both cases what was theirs was reclaimed.

DA GBFM REPLIES:

Yes John, the Iliad and Odyssey exalt the nobility of Honor.

The very first word of the Iliad is “RAGE.” The “RAGE” of Achilles when his honor is violated and his rightful prize and love is taken from him by his very own commander.

Right here we see Man versus State, as Achilles is the superior warrior, and as he takes all the risks, he ought get the reward. That is the Natural Law of Zeus, for after Achilles Natural Rights are violated and Achilles quits, Zeus sees to it that the Greeks begin to lose, as Zeus’s will was done.

Long before Atlas Shrugged in Rand’s cheap novel, Achilles quit the Greek army.

Homer shows that women who honor their commitments, like Penelope, lead to happy endings. Women who disregard their commitments, like Helen, lead to War.

Achilles quits for the sake of Honor, refuses to return when offered millions times more prizes, arguing that once honor is taken away, mere money/prizes cannot buy it back. He also reasons that all the wealth in the world is not worth him losing his life in an arena where his honor was taken away. When offered honors and awards, Achilles states, “I receive my honor from Zeus, not from corrupt Kings.”

And too Achilles returns to fight for Honor, so as to avenge the death of his friend Patroculus, knowing full well he will die.

Simply put, Achilles is a man who lives and dies not for mere prizes, nor perks, nor tenure, nor titles, nor money, but for honor, and honor alone.

A few hundred years later, Socrates would invoke Achilles while facing death at his own trial. Socrates was offered perks and prizes and life if he would only recant his teachings that “Virtue does not come from money, but money and every lasting good of man derives form virtue.”

But then Socrates asked, “Would Achilles back down from battle is bribed by physical wealth?” Socrates reasoned he would be dishonoring the Great Achilles if he ever recanted his teachings.

And of course Socrates mentored Plato who mentored Aristotle who mentored Copernicus/Newton/Galileo, who gave birth to Western Science and Technology and Freedom, all via the Homeric Honor of Achilles.

In the same way Socrates internalized the physical battle of Achilles and made it a battle for the soul, so too did Jesus inetrnalize the physical battles of Moses, and make it a battle for the soul, for the Kingdom of Ideals.

And in Hamlet, we see the clash of Athens and Jerusalem, as Hamlet is called upon to avenge his Father, only to find his murderous uncle begging for forgiveness beneath a cross. So too do we see Athens and Jerusalem as two pillars of our Liberty and Freedom, which is why Dalrock and his Frankfartian Fellowship must attack, belittle and castigate it.

Wallace (GBFM): We have beaten the English (the manosphere gets more traffic than many well-funded frnkfartian blogs), but they’ll come back because you won’t stand together (too many dalrockian frnkfartians attack the Great Books for Men in favor of gamey game).

MacClannough (DALROCK): What will you do?

Wallace (GBFM): I will invade england (the chruches/universities/publishing houses) and defeat the English (Frankfartians/Churchians) on their own ground with a literary and spiritual renaissance exalting the Great Books and Classics.

MacClannough (DALROCK): Invade? That’s impossible.

Wallace (GBFM): Why? Why is that impossible? You’re so concerned with squabbling for the scraps (gaming the pre-buttocked womenz) from Longshanks’ (Frankfartian schools and churches) table that you’ve missed your god-given right to something better (A literary and spirtual renaissance exalting our birthright–the Great Books for Men, and a truly Holy Wife, loyal to God and Man instead of da bottomz lineszzz debtesz butt gina tinzgzlzozolzozo). There’s a difference between us. You think the people of this country (bloggers of the manosphere) exist to provide you with position (instalanches for teaching men they need Game instead of Moses and Jesus and Homer). I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom (the Truth of teh Great Books for Men that Sets Them Free), and I go to make sure that they have it.